boyjohnnyyoyo Says:
Sep 1, 2008 - I hate to acknowledge that those who comes from a small clan doesn't gets as much support as to those who has a large clan. I disagree with the widow, especially the women, who has to go through their crisis to get along with her in-laws. I hate to see segration between clans and sets. I hate to see bridal price and fines. The thing I disagree the most is, if my parent loves me just as much as I would love my kids, they would never come back. Why not send them to rest and peace rather than...?
niamtxiv Says:
Sep 1, 2008 - I come from a small clan. There are things in the Hmong culture that I disagree with but learning about it, I learned to appreciate it. The only thing I want to see change in the Hmong culture is the male and female gender roles. we must help one another and stop being so sexist. It been so long since I've been to a traditional ceremonies and I always get excited when I am able to attend one. I love observing and listening to ritual songs. It's like going to another world. Anyways, thank again.
boyjohnnyyoyo Says:
Sep 1, 2008 - Exactly. We need to start appreciating our women, 1st of all. Love 'em, care 'em, cherrish 'em, treat 'em well, etc. just as much as when we were dating. The man needs to play it's role to be a strong head of the household and look out for the needs of the family. The woman needs provide assistant as it requirements & morals to nourish it's children. Both needs to work together. Everyone needs to be part of a family unity. What's sad is not too many think of family value as much. We tend to fade
boyjohnnyyoyo Says:
Sep 1, 2008 - See... I came from a large clan. Very strong traditionally. I respect it highly; however, being raised by a single mother, you'll see the difference with pride and honor. When I was younger, I was put down, especially being the only son with no father. You been through toughness. Raised in the hood. Survived in the hood. Resurrected and opened my eyes in the hood. Now, full grown and, not to be conceited, educated, people start to acknowledge who you are. I love my people. I hate to see 'em cry.
boyjohnnyyoyo Says:
Sep 1, 2008 - Let's not try to hurt our people. Let's stop the hate and start to appreciate every moment of our life. Be grateful for our freedom here in this beautiful, or in Mandarin Meiguo, country. We never had this freedom in our previous life from our ancestors. See our success and knowledge. See our pains and sorrows. See our past to the present. Open our eyes to see our future. Let's not wake up late my friends. Love thy enemy. Love thy neighbor. Peace to all. These are Chirst's words.
HaivHmoobTsojSiab Says:
Sep 3, 2008 - Hmong might be the ancient Yeuzhi people go to European mummies China
samlorson Says:
Sep 3, 2008 - Interesting...I read an article wrote from the 1800's and the author said that the Miao might have came from a Brahman stock and it was why Miao/Hmong have Buddhist philosophy in their religion/culture. More research need to be done before us Miao/Hmong can say that we are from the descendant of the Yeuzhi people.
niamtxiv Says:
Sep 3, 2008 - I read about them but I am not sure if the Hmong are related to the Yuezhi people. According to an old ancient book written by the Chinese, I forgot the title of the old book but it was about the Mang People of the Yellow River. The ancient Yuezhi, I believe are people from Northwest China - Xinjiang. Everything that are found in our culture date and refer back to the Yellow River Region. A theory would be, our people physical char were different at that time? who really knows..
niamtxiv Says:
Sep 3, 2008 - Yes, we do have Buddhist philosophy incorporated into our religious practices but most daoism and pre-daoism practices such as Nuo; an ancient belief revolving a shaman, dances and etc... Brahman stock? quite fishy there. lol
TheMiaoKingdom Says:
Sep 3, 2008 - great video!! You're always so good at making videos with photos..
sscc587 Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - These are very beautiful pictures!!! Yeah, I agree with you, alot of hmong people forget about them, theres still hmong taiwan too and of lots of other lesser know places.
PloverWI Says:
Sep 9, 2008 - Our Hmong People in Northern Vietnam that you showed here were heavily bombed and murdered by the same thieves that Vang Pao work for and drag our people to kill for him and his opium profiteering activities. So you see, Hmong are not few that will follow Vang Pao to his grave.
niamtxiv Says:
Sep 9, 2008 - I have lots of relative in Vietnam for your information. Most of them came from Yunnan, China. Don't bring your issue here.
voice0n Says:
Sep 9, 2008 - C'mon, bro. Take this crap somewhere else. This is the time to reunite all Hmong/Miao regardless of clans, sets, gender, locations, politic parties, etc. If you keep bringing this up about good man GVP, then you are the one with disgrace & disrespect with no love to our Hmong heritage, culture & people. We've been through much & we don't need this crap. If you want hate, then you should consider suicide yourself. We know it is a mistake, but our Hmong blood is not the case. Hmong still w/ Hmong.
PloverWI Says:
Sep 9, 2008 - VoiceOn, linked with CIA, killed our own, encourage thieves to rob and kill our villagers in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia should never been part of heritage. And I agree that we have been through this, but we need to remind ourselves again and again to make sure we don't go through it again in the future especially when we got people like Vang Pao who insist on having more of the same. I want all Hmong to reunite and with divisiona force like Vang Pao we need to acknowledge the challenge.
PloverWI Says:
Sep 9, 2008 - niamtxiv, you are not the only one that have relative in those region. I think we all do have relatives in those regions. This is why it is so important not to bomb it again and those that being bombed in the past needed to be paid. Hmong with Hmong forever, people like Vang Pao should never be allow to divide us with his CIA and other terrorist background.
niamtxiv Says:
Sep 9, 2008 - Mister, this war is long over. Vangpao, our beloved father is retired. Blame the CIA, not Vangpao. I agreed that we have been tricked by the American CIA but it's wasn't Vangpao fault. He was just chosen as a general to lead the Hmong people.
voice0n Says:
Sep 10, 2008 - Dude, You don't have to remind us each and every time. We got your point! I got much respect for you just as much as I have my respect for GVP and all the commies. I don't care about anyone else but our Hmong people. Stop being bias and sarcastic! We don't care what GVP did. We're just glad that he made a step for the Hmong to be here in the US to have to freedom they deserves. If it wasn't for that we wouldn't know that we still have lost contact brothers in other countries. So appreciate it!
niamtxiv Says:
Sep 10, 2008 - agree with voice0n. i don't care about Vangpao but i respect him deeply for bridging the way for our people to come to the United States. it's sad that some of our people died, but it's the sacrificed they made that we are here today around the world.. so yes, I thank them and I pray for them.. remember them and appreciate them. our people didn't deserve this but what can we do, we are a big ethnic group living in southeast asia during the war and we have to do something or our lives will...
PloverWI Says:
Sep 11, 2008 - I know reminding people about peace is not important, but I happen to think it is and will continue to make it when necessary. I don't care about anyone else either, but I have learned that if we study the thieves' habits and consistancy on robbery, we can better protect ourselve in similar situations. Don't forget to thank the revolutionaries of Laos for defeating the thieves and Vang Pao's gangs that got us Hmong in the States as well. Without them, we would've be slaves for another 200 years.
PloverWI Says:
Sep 11, 2008 - I agree with you on one point here. It is the war that got us here in the states, but remember to thank those Hmong that sacrifice their lives by defeating the CIA and Vang Pao's gangs that have prevented a foreign control dictarial rule from being installed in our native country. Vang Pao got him hooked with CIA but it was the Hmong people that defeated the CIA and got us here in the U.S. So give thanks to where it belong.
voice0n Says:
Sep 11, 2008 - Ok Ok You have great point! I thank all the Hmong from both sides, with out you all, Hmong would not even be exist at all to the world. Now let's have the LPDR let all the Chaofa from the jungle go free and live freedomly without and political involvement, discriminations and harrasments. Let's stop the hate and start to appreciate. Unity is peace. So now, stop the spreading and respect all our forefathers regardless of which side they're from. We are all Hmong. Peace.
CicilyKong Says:
Sep 15, 2008 - this is an awesome video! Just what I needed.
PloverWI Says:
Sep 15, 2008 - voiceon, great point too and you can start that unity of our people by exposing Vang Pao and other divisional force that continue to make our people in Laos suffer and prevent our native country from getting achance at trying its own way of life. You can help maintain the peace that our forefather had achieved by chasing thieves out of Laos by expose Vang Pao and other force that try to restart a war that should have been healed already.
boyjohnnyyoyo Says:
Sep 1, 2008 - I'm proud that you still have the desires & compassionate to progress and appreciate our culture and tradition with respect and pride. I value that fascinating as well. Not too many youth or younger generations are praticing it as much as our parents and ancestors would love us to. I admire all the family oriented our Hmong people provides. it's just in our blood. However, there are still things I disagree with our culture & traditions just as much as I would love to continue on our ceremonies.