Transcending Anarcho-semantics

j4ck2234 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - The thing with the semantics. Have you ever tried to argue with a socialist about the slogan - CAPITALISM=FASCISM It's not possible. I tell you marxism has become some kind of religion. It's so frustrating.

j4ck2234 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - It's Marx' inherently stupid Labor theory of value that poisons everything. That's the thing we have to attack...i think libertarian socialists have good instincts but are misguided.

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - If it truly boils down to that, then indeed it isn't anarchism.

j4ck2234 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - Maybe it's also egalitarianism which poisons everything i don't know. Can some libertarian socialist explain why it is in your form of free society forbidden to make voluntary contracts and how it will be prevented?

j4ck2234 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - Maybe we just can't see the underlying logic of freedom because we're so indoctrinated by capitalist hatepreachers. -.-

subach Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - What we all really fear is being forced to live the way someone else wants us to. If we just get rid of that then who cares what the socialist do? Who cares what the capitalist do? Maybe I don't have to give one up to have the other? I mean if there's two cakes....

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - You can have your cake and eat it too.

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - That isn't to say, however, that I do not simultaneously have my own personal preferances.

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 6, 2008 - Then there comes a point at which one has to draw a meaningful line between anarchism and things such as marxism and conservatism.

thatguyublocked Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - Without a plan or an order there is no way of knowing if a society will be capitalist or communist or whatever. It's just blind driving. You could construct any imaginary voluntary society, a voluntary society of people who dress up in Halloween costumes, a voluntary society of people who all eat tofu. It could be anything and everything because it's just imaginary, these voluntary dream ideas are just wishful thinking.

thatguyublocked Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - In the real world the rules are made up by those who have power, by whatever name you want to give it, "government", "democracy", "an individual", whatever...There will always be rulers because power is out there and some entity or entities will take possession of it, its nature not government.

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - This video is about internal conflict among anarchists, so it doesn't make any sense for you to try to spark and anarchist vs. non-anarchist debate on the comments section of this video. This video is not an argument for anarchism, it is an observation and criticism of conflict internal to anarchism.

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - This video is about internal conflict among anarchists, so it doesn't make any sense for you to try to spark and anarchist vs. non-anarchist debate on the comments section of this video. This video is not an argument for anarchism, it is an observation and criticism of conflict internal to anarchism.

thatguyublocked Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - I think my comments are related, but whatever...I'll never find an Anarchist who can confront these issues. In fact, if you read my comments I am agreeing with you. I don't think there is a difference between social anarchy and market anarchy they are both unrealistic.

VeritasEtLibertas82 Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - THANK YOU!~ I couldn't have said it better! Brilliant.

opinionhead444 Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - You are a natural born philosopher. Preach on, brother.

napalmtube Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - incredible video

lukeev Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - Great video, Mr.Brain

bubonicnate Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - I agree it is a lot of semantics - but then again it was Marx who said: "Say the secret word, the duck comes down; the duck comes down - you win 100 dollars." - Julius Henry "Groucho" Marx

brainpolice2 Says:

Sep 7, 2008 - Oh, that's the cool Marx. :)

overmind25 Says:

Sep 8, 2008 - Beatiful

enape311 Says:

Sep 10, 2008 - My problem with your comment is that this is just your opinion, with no objective evidence to support your claim. There are many examples of egalitarin societies and that would suggest that human nature allows for a wide variety of behaviors. Just as one type of behavior is prevelent today there is no evidence to suggest that the other is impossible. In fact because we see that egalitarian societies exist that shows that this type of behavior is possible.

enape311 Says:

Sep 10, 2008 - Power is out there, does that mean that power has to be used? Don't you have some potential power over someone else that you don't exercise because you are a good person? So is it possible that the use of power is just a specific behavior that is selected for in today's society? If we were a war like and power hungry people by nature does it make sense that we would have gotten this far? Isnt a large degree of human sucess a result of cooperation?

thatguyublocked Says:

Sep 10, 2008 - My point was not that power is always abused; my point is that a power dynamic exists in physical reality regardless of its use or abuse. This power dynamic can be either hierarchic or aiming toward anarchic. Now, if we set our means toward this end as one wherein anybody can do whatever they want, that's a terrible way to start. If I have a goal of reducing hierarchic power relationships, I shouldn't set my road toward this end as being one that is totally and completely random.

graaaaaagh Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Behind the fog there is only a mirror.